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DDR3/DDR2 RAM: FAQ and IC List - 05-03-08, 17:08

Guys, jika kalian punya info tentang chip RAM, bisa PM kami untuk kemudian kami update.

Thread ini adalah tentang IC (chip) RAM, bagaimana yang baik, bagaimana yang sedang, bagaimana yang value, etc. Daripada bingung garansi ilang karena membuka Heatspreader untuk mengintip IC, maka sebaiknya kita share sama-sama disini.

IC/Chipset FAQ
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Q: Apakah IC itu?
A: IC adalah Integrated Circuit, chipset yang tertanam di RAM


Q: Bagaimana pengaruh tipe/jenis IC pada RAM?
A: Ngaruh banget bro, do'i lah yang menentukan "karakter" RAM. Bagaimana timing, frequency dan kebutuhan voltage.


Q: Saya melihat memory dengan chipset sama, tetapi beda frequency, misal A-Data DDR800 X Series dengan A-Data DDR1066 EE series yang keduanya sama-sama memakain Micron D9GMH. Lalu apakah keduanya mempunyai karakter dan kemampuan yang sama? Lalu kenapa satunya dijual dengan nama DDR800, dan satunya lagi DDR1066?
A: Memang keduanya sama-sama memakai IC Micron D9GMH. Tetapi satunya "high binned". Binning yang lebih baik tentu akan di rate dengan DDR1066. Satunya yang kurang bagus binningnya akan di rate DDR yang lebih rendah dari 1066. Seperti kita ketahui, IC diproduksi secara massal, ada batch yang baik, ada juga batch yang kurang baik. Lalu dari pabrik akan di test, binning yang sip akan dilabel DDR tinggi.


Q: Apakah saya harus memilih DDR1066 daripada DDR800, JIKA memang telah diketahui bahwa IC nya sama.
A: Sesuaikan budget sih namun rata-rata DDR1066 LEBIH enak tarikannya daripada DDR800. Jelas yang 1066 itu lebih baik binning-nya. Kecuali juga faktor "lucky". Ada juga sih yang beli DDR800 tapi dapet binning bagus, ya gampang saja lari di 1200 CL5 dengan voltase yang wajar. Namun sekali lagi untuk kasus ini butuh "luck factor".


Q: IC apa yang bagus untuk di-overclock?
A: (saat ini) Micron D9. GMH untuk timing ketat, dan GKX untuk frequency tinggi. Karakter GMH rata-rata 900MHz 2.1V 4-4-4-12. Karakter GKX rata-rata 1300 5-5-5-15 2.2V. Binning juga turut menentukan GMH A dengan GMH B, GKX C dengan GKX D, etc


Q: Apa itu Hand Picked?
A: RAM yang bener-bener Best of the Best. Pilihan gitu ... setelah melalui tahap binning, lalu tahap QC, RAM hand picked akan diseleksi satu-satu dari tangan overclocker handal.


Q: Apa yang menyebabkan IC RAM mati?
A: Voltase berlebihan


Q: IC RAM apa yang OK selain Micron D9GMH dan D9GKX?
A: Promos dan D9 GCT. Mereka bagus untuk average OC. Terlebih karakter Promos yang suka voltage rendah, cocok banget buat mayoritas user.



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Q: What company has the best RAM for the best price.
A: Depends on your opinion. But I think Crucial, end of story. Crucial uses all Micron chips in their RAM. That's because they are a subdivision of Micron, they have to use Micron. Their D9GMH chips are in their cheap PC2-6400 series. Team Group and G.SKILL are also very good. OCZ has good high end RAM but may be a bit too much. Decide yourself by comparing IC's. You will find Crucial wins.

Q: What Company should I avoid?
A: Corsair. You get the same D9GMH/GKX from Crucial that you do from Corsair Dominators for so much less money. Stay away from Corsair. Their mid low-end stuff is not good. Their good stuff is way too much. PQI, Wintec AMPO. If you haven't heard of it, don't buy it is a good rule.
Kalo di Indo, yang garang itu Team Extreme. Yang favorit dan banyak pilihan saya pikir adalah A-Data



untuk info IC/chipset RAM, bisa anda lihat ke sini: ---> ramlist.ath.cx


Bagaimana dengan IC tipe lain? Ya silahkan dicoba sendiri lalu dibahas disini

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05-03-08, 17:11

wawancara mode on : bagaimana menurut anda mengenai powerchip? karena saya lihat anda eh salah maksud saya kita berdua adalah mantan pengguna ram dengan chip powerchip










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Q: Bagaimana menurut anda mengenai powerchip? karena saya lihat anda eh salah maksud saya kita berdua adalah mantan pengguna ram dengan chip powerchip.
question by verry

A: oh ... lumayan sih, bisa 900an di 2.1V timing 5-5-5-5-15. Tapi dodol mo naik lagi. Kudu sering berdo'a biar dapet lucky factor








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A: Berapa kau beli Corsair DR800? Team Elite dengan IC Promos bisa 1000 5-5-5-15 2.15V dengan harga hampir separuhnya

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05-03-08, 17:18

yup powerchip gak bagus timing gak mau dirubah ini khusus PC6400, aneh padahal lari di frek 750MHz aye kasih timing 4 ajah gak mau dengan vdimm 2.1v, udah gitu gak mau naik di atas 900MHz










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05-03-08, 17:22

Tambahan Bec,

1. Pengertian dari high binned (untuk hand picked kan udah tertera di atas)
2. yang menyebabkan ram mati :
- Voltase berlebihan
- Kesalahan user
- Bad Luck (hihihi)

3. Karakter GMH dan GKX
- (konon) GMH lebih bagus pencapaian clock dengan cas5, GKX lebih bagus di cas4
- GMH butuh voltase lebih tinggi, GKX bisa mencapai clock yang sama dengan GMH dengan voltase yang lebih rendah
- GMH lebih tahan setrum tinggi dalam waktu lama, GKX bisa bego kalo disetrum tinggi lama2


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05-03-08, 17:23

GMH ku binning nya kurang bagus
timingnya bisa super ketat sih ...

cuman seperti ada wall di 575 atau 1150MHz
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ya maklum lah, binning GMH kelas DDR800
*jadi keracunan pengen GMH yang DDR1066 --> o mai gat




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Tambahan Bec,

1. Pengertian dari high binned (untuk hand picked kan udah tertera di atas)
2. yang menyebabkan ram mati :
- Voltase berlebihan
- Kesalahan user
- Bad Luck (hihihi)

3. Karakter GMH dan GKX
- (konon) GMH lebih bagus pencapaian clock dengan cas5, GKX lebih bagus di cas4
- GMH butuh voltase lebih tinggi, GKX bisa mencapai clock yang sama dengan GMH dengan voltase yang lebih rendah
- GMH lebih tahan setrum tinggi dalam waktu lama, GKX bisa bego kalo disetrum tinggi lama2
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