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View Poll Results: Legal atau Ilegal Fansub itu ???
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14-08-07, 06:38

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ilegal.
rip dari acara tv itu ilegal.
Tapi perasaan di Jepang tu biasa dilakukan deh. Bahkan ada di adegan Anime-nya tuh (contoh Sinchan ato Detektive Conan).


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14-08-07, 08:36

Kalau...sharing = legal, bagaimana dengan MP3? Bisa aja kan cuman "sharing". Lah, kalau semua alasannya sharing, cukup 1 orang aja yang beli cd aslinya di luar lalu di rip ke MP3 dan sharing rame2 ...bangkrut kali penyanyinya ...eh salah, maksudnya produsernya .

Seperti kata AvinChandra, semua barang yang sudah ada copyrightnya dicopy tanpa izin pasti ilegal terlepas dari medianya dan negaranya. Bedanya, apakah copyright itu diakui di negara kita apa tidak? . Emangnya yang buat (misalnya) anime itu fansub? Apa hak fansub bilang anime ini itu legal? Lah yang buat videonya bukan mereka kok . Malah gwe bilang cenderung munafik, nyuri lalu dibagi2-in gratis ke yang lain .

Sebenarnya, buntut masalah ini kan bermula dari masalah copyright. COba copyright dihilangkan, semua jadi legal kan? ...; Yah, dunia kapitalis ya gitu deh...; Yang kayak makin kaya, yang miskin makin miskin...makanya muncullah pembajakan dan yang masuk abu2 model fansub gini .

Ngomong2, keliatannya di anime2 sekarang jarang yang masukin tulisan jangan diperjual belikan dst ya?


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14-08-07, 10:30


misalnya gini
RCTI nayangin anime ABCD, otomatis dia bayar ke pihak ABCD untuk dapetin copyrightnya..... dan copyrightnya itu dipegang RCTI
jadi ya klo kita rekam terus kita distribusiin kan ilegal (itu barangnya RCTI kan )



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14-08-07, 13:09

Tapi kan iklannya kita rekam juga ...berarti turut berjasa dong kita menyebarkan iklan nggak dibayar lagi ...

Mbuh ah, ribet ...


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14-08-07, 14:49

Iya juga sih. Banyaknya Fansub juga bisa berarti anime itu makin terkenal dunk.


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14-08-07, 15:12

bukan gitu.....

kalau RCTI dah nyiarin anime ABCD, tapi kita shrea anime WYXZ yang gak di-licence RCTI, yah kita bebas dunk.
sekarang wa tanya, di website fansub.tv, ada anime yang udah di-licence gak? ato bahkan ada anime yang udah di license ama TV lokal?

dan buat linkin: itu animesuki dulu mereka ngasih fansub yang udah di-license. sekarang? gak ada tuh. di website mereka malah ditaruh daftar anime yang udah di license, sekarang? mana anime yang udah di-license yang ada di website mereka?

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14-08-07, 15:36

Jujur saja, aneh klo alasan fansub itu legal karena belum anime yg difansub belum dilisensi, jadi, misalnya klo sewaktu2 dilisensi, apa orang2 akan beli anime itu? Berapa banyak orang yang cuma download saja tapi begitu dilisensi nggak mau beli, alasannya sih udah pernah nonton buat apa beli.

Fansub memang masih kontroversial...



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14-08-07, 15:45

ah, temen wa ada koq yang beli DVD ORI Ghost in the Shell second GiG, cuma 500rb.... bener juga, memang kualitas fansub gak bakalan bisa menyaingi kualitas DVD ORI.
SELAMANYA.

kalau wa sekarang baru beli CD Audio ORI doank
seharusnya sih aturan fansub tuh nyuruh orang2 "bakar/buang segala bukti" telah ada fansub" seandainya anime itu sudah di-licenced di negaranya... ato paling ngga menghentikan peredarannya....

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Are you otaku enough to support the company and buy the original DVD? or you can just shut you lame mouth and support fansub instead of blabbering and buy the pirated version of it while prompting to humilliate fansubbers at the same time, which they are far more useful than you people keep saying that you are an innocent citizen at all times. pity


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14-08-07, 16:40

^ useful...maybe yes maybe not . Tergantung dari sisi mana ngeliatnya . But, useful or not, fansub is doing the wrong thing using a weaknesses in the law. You cannot claim yourself to be useful when at the same time doing good things you're also stealing another person's works to accomplish your objectives . That is a twisted logic ...; It's complicated, because that is the result of Caplitalism.

Sebenarnya kita bisa analogikan Fansub itu dengan game bajakan . Biasanya (misalnya) dengan trailer anime (atau demo di game), nggak cukup untuk menilai anime ini bagus apa tidak. Kita harus menonton paling tidak minimal 3 episode, itupun tidak menjamin . Baru setelah itu kita baru memutuskan mau membeli orinya atau tidak.

Masalahnya, kualitas gambar di anime pun bervariasi dengan harga yang relatif sama. Di dunia fansub anime terkenal istilah anime R1 dan R2, dimana R = Region. R1 kita tahu itu adalah USA, sementara R2 adalah Jepang, yang berarti anime R1 adalah anime dari DVD Region 1. Kualitas R1 biasanya di bawah R2. Dan...kualitas R3 (ASIA, biasanya dari Hongkong) kualitasnya di bawah R1 . Indonesia biasanya ngambil dari R3, jadi jangan heran kalau ada VCD atau DVD Ori ada subtitle Chinese tapi nggak ada subtitle Indo ^^;;;

Kalau diperhatiin harga DVD Anime dan harga DVD Holywood, selisih harganya bisa sampai 5-10 US$ lebih mahal anime lho? ...


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